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"CROAK!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-23 12:12:31

by Gwyn Hyman Rubio.  It's about a little girl with Tourette's Syndrome growing up in Kentucky in the 1950s.  Here's the review I wrote for Facebook's Visual Bookshelf and LibraryThing: "** (two stars)Overall not a fan. While I loved what little of the characters I got to know (mostly angry ignorant Icy). I felt the overall story was pretty loose and weak. If the author had focused a little more on Icy's struggle and a little less on her personality. I would have enjoyed Icy Sparks a lot more. More attention on her loved ones would have been wonderful too. This would have been for me an interesting tale of perseverance-despite-ignorance if it hadn't meandered and wasn't wrapped up as quickly and conveniently as it was."I'm going to go into it a little more here so if you're planning to read the book you've been warned.  Okay:Icy Sparks is a young girl of ten growing up in rural Kentucky.  She's teased and known as "the frog girl" for the fits and spasms she suffers.  She's got a hellish temper and skittish nature which seem to trigger her episodes.  Her simple grandparents care for her and love her dearly (her parents passed away not long after her birth).  Neither she nor anyone in her town of Ginseng know what causes her intense spasms and vulgarity.  They explain it folkily--the cruel ordinary humans of her burg call her "addled" or "touched" or "possessed".  Icy hates herself for her strangeness. Sounds like a good setup eh?  Well that's the entire book.  Rubio just keeps hammering these things into your head through 40 chapters.  They hate her she hates her.  Most folks are cruel to her.  She's weird to everyone including herself. When Icy learns life lessons it's through trite fortune-cookie-isms delivered by the personified Hallmark cards who befriend her.  She's misunderstood.  She matures.  She's misunderstood more.  In the end she gets religion and the advice to "Just love yourself!" and lives happily ever after.  It's as simple and vague as that. What Rubio does do well is introduce characters.. which never seem to develop past their introductions.  Miss Emily. Icy's first real friend is an educated and incredibly obese woman who relates to Icy through her own personal strangeness and suffering.. for about a page.  Maizy a perky therapist in the mental hospital Icy is put in for a while likes Icy because she's nice (that's it).  Her grandparents are nice too.  You never experience a change in any character in this story; you're told of what the characters are suffer their trite dialogues and are left to decipher their value to each other.  I think these supporting characters are bland because they're consistently interrupted by our little spitfire protagonist--she'll grow up when she wants to dang nab it and you'll all jus' be there to watch!But maybe I just couldn't pick up on the subtlety. I could go on with my disappointment but I know when to stop.  I'm disappointed in this book mainly because it kept me in Limbo.  I kept turning the pages in the hopes that something would happen to these character sketches that someone would have a character-defining moment but kept getting the same thing (ignorance intolerance angst and Kentucky-fried glurges) over and over.. then it was over.  Because church.  Period.  Eh. If you've read Icy Sparks please share your thoughts with me.  I'd love to know what you think of it.  Forgive me if this review seemed scattered. I'm finally falling asleep.  Pretty rapidly too...'Night. Heh. This was my first "Oprah's Book Club" book--take that as you will. :-)I'd never heard of the book. After reading Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn. I was interested to see how other authors worked with Tourette's in their fiction. A library search led me to Icy. I'll admit I was a little put off by the O-Stamp but didn't want to you know judge. Perhaps this is a lesson. It's a shame dang nab it the premise was really intriguing. There are good books in the "O" book club too - so don't let that hinder you. There are some surprising books that make it on that list including at least one by Gabriel Garcia Marquez (which they are making into what is likely to be a god awful movie that isn't even in Spanish). Ah. One Hundred Years of Solitude. A book I need to pick up again--I wasn't in the right place to read it the first time around. A movie though eh? Could be good. Oh. I also see Love in the Time of Cholera is on the list... And Anna Karenina and Night. The hear The Road is an excellent read too. I know better than to take lists too seriously taste being what it is. :-)

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"CROAK!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-23 12:12:23

by Gwyn Hyman Rubio.  It's about a little girl with Tourette's Syndrome growing up in Kentucky in the 1950s.  Here's the review I wrote for Facebook's Visual Bookshelf and LibraryThing: "** (two stars)Overall not a fan. While I loved what little of the characters I got to know (mostly angry ignorant Icy). I felt the overall story was pretty loose and weak. If the author had focused a little more on Icy's struggle and a little less on her personality. I would have enjoyed Icy Sparks a lot more. More attention on her loved ones would have been wonderful too. This would have been for me an interesting tale of perseverance-despite-ignorance if it hadn't meandered and wasn't wrapped up as quickly and conveniently as it was."I'm going to go into it a little more here so if you're planning to read the book you've been warned.  Okay:Icy Sparks is a young girl of ten growing up in rural Kentucky.  She's teased and known as "the frog girl" for the fits and spasms she suffers.  She's got a hellish temper and skittish nature which seem to trigger her episodes.  Her simple grandparents care for her and love her dearly (her parents passed away not long after her birth).  Neither she nor anyone in her town of Ginseng know what causes her intense spasms and vulgarity.  They explain it folkily--the cruel ordinary humans of her burg call her "addled" or "touched" or "possessed".  Icy hates herself for her strangeness. Sounds like a good setup eh?  Well that's the entire book.  Rubio just keeps hammering these things into your head through 40 chapters.  They hate her she hates her.  Most folks are cruel to her.  She's weird to everyone including herself. When Icy learns life lessons it's through trite fortune-cookie-isms delivered by the personified Hallmark cards who befriend her.  She's misunderstood.  She matures.  She's misunderstood more.  In the end she gets religion and the advice to "Just love yourself!" and lives happily ever after.  It's as simple and vague as that. What Rubio does do well is introduce characters.. which never seem to develop past their introductions.  Miss Emily. Icy's first real friend is an educated and incredibly obese woman who relates to Icy through her own personal strangeness and suffering.. for about a page.  Maizy a perky therapist in the mental hospital Icy is put in for a while likes Icy because she's nice (that's it).  Her grandparents are nice too.  You never experience a change in any character in this story; you're told of what the characters are suffer their trite dialogues and are left to decipher their value to each other.  I think these supporting characters are bland because they're consistently interrupted by our little spitfire protagonist--she'll grow up when she wants to dang nab it and you'll all jus' be there to watch!But maybe I just couldn't pick up on the subtlety. I could go on with my disappointment but I know when to stop.  I'm disappointed in this book mainly because it kept me in Limbo.  I kept turning the pages in the hopes that something would happen to these character sketches that someone would have a character-defining moment but kept getting the same thing (ignorance intolerance angst and Kentucky-fried glurges) over and over.. then it was over.  Because church.  Period.  Eh. If you've read Icy Sparks please share your thoughts with me.  I'd love to know what you think of it.  Forgive me if this review seemed scattered. I'm finally falling asleep.  Pretty rapidly too...'Night. Heh. This was my first "Oprah's Book Club" book--take that as you will. :-)I'd never heard of the book. After reading Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn. I was interested to see how other authors worked with Tourette's in their fiction. A library search led me to Icy. I'll admit I was a little put off by the O-Stamp but didn't want to you know judge. Perhaps this is a lesson. It's a shame dang nab it the premise was really intriguing. There are good books in the "O" book club too - so don't let that hinder you. There are some surprising books that make it on that list including at least one by Gabriel Garcia Marquez (which they are making into what is likely to be a god awful movie that isn't even in Spanish). Ah. One Hundred Years of Solitude. A book I need to pick up again--I wasn't in the right place to read it the first time around. A movie though eh? Could be good. Oh. I also see Love in the Time of Cholera is on the list... And Anna Karenina and Night. The hear The Road is an excellent read too. I know better than to take lists too seriously taste being what it is. :-)

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"What's the most subversive book you own?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-07-01 07:09:12

In today's Guardian he might be in affect. Following the conviction of the self-styled "" he's expecting the police to come knocking on his door in a raid that will uncover his shelf beat of books glorifying terrorism his hard control's history of sites maintained by "unsavoury populate" and his notebooks covered in chilling phrases and a "list of possible targets". It's all research for his measure novel but would the guard find anything more than "a certain transgressive glamour" in such material? It's something I wondered myself measure pass after taking out a collection of books on female suicide bombers from my university library. If the police. I wondered had a look at my library be as well as the history of my internet searches they'd sight I have an (un?)healthy arouse in women's subversive acts violent rebellion and involvement in terrorism. I know I emailed more than a few people yesterday expressing my great excitement at news of the ICA's forthcoming season. It's all research for a thesis. Honest. But as Kunzru writes in our current terrorist panic we seem to have accepted that it should be illegal to think construe and create verbally certain things. "Incitement to violence is rightly criminalised but what about imagining violence? ... How desire before it's suggested we should shut up altogether?" Do you own any subversive books that have caused you to cerebrate whether the police might go knocking at your door? This whole thing has a telos down the plughole of worry. Don't blame me for feeding the monster. Good heavens can't you express how loopy paranoid some of the punters are here or are you banking on their loquacious recklessness trumping all? A qualificatory addendum rejig thing might help; you know something along the lines of we all know it's absurd we're quite safe what have you. If you believe it. Great topic. I can't say that I do own any guess books. I'm sure I do but there so 'dangerous' I can't remember what they are!! My dad wasn't a book-reader but he was very much into drawing conspiracy theories from the newspapers of which he was an avid reader and I remember when I was a child he came home from his Irish pub with a copy of the then controversial Spycatcher book. It was banned at the time. He didn't read the book. None of us did. But it was valued for the bushel reason that it had been 'banned'. I think the dog ending up using it as a chew-thing. The news yesterday included Yahoo!'s financial and credibility problems after shopping users of their Chinese operation to the authorities. I'm sure the Grauniad would never shop us remove people to Bottler Brown and Jacqui Spliff so here goes: I have a write of (Comment Deleted by Moderator and forwarded to those burly boys battering down your lie door) Suggests that if the police are one of the pillars that maintain cater in a guard state we shouldn't wait for revolution but start engaging them individually within their communities to help them to see the issues with the system they answer. I think it must be the Baader Meinhof/Red Army Faction related stuff - notably The Urban Guerilla Concept in relation to them. Looks dodgy though I am interested in Baader Meinhof via that great In Love With Terror docu one part of the second Heimat. Germany in Autumn. The Lost recognise of Katherine Blaum & one of the great albums of the 1990s baader meinhof by baader meinhof (was hoping that Tony Blair would put Luke Haines on trial with this write of legislation for the BM album or a song like Tombstone! People could undergo heard its wonders & maybe a deluxe version could undergo been released?). I anticipate it depends on the country the bestseller The Pianist was banned in Poland and denied for years & I'm sure a book like Utopia by Thomas More might have been seen as subversive? Wouldn't some classic writers like Dostoyevksy have be seen in a less than positive way? Milan Kundera probably wasn't appreciated in the Eastern Bloc either... Wasn't there some American law passed not unlike the way the serial killer in Se7en is tracked where certain books etc are used to bring in murderers? So you turn up on a list if you have The 120 Days of Sodom (yes). The Turner Diaries (nope) or The House of Saud/furnish? Is 'You are what you read...' true? Last time I saw a True Crime or Erotic fiction section they were quite big.. is reading about the dark cram the same as condoning it? Interesting topic this - I've spent the past year or so working on a Master's thesis on the Weather Underground and undergo major interest in the Baader-Meinhof Gang and their fellow travellers which does indeed take you to some very colourful websites and allow some rather dubious opinions onto your bookshelf. Tom Vague's rotten veneration of the RAF as heroes in Televisionaries sticks out. Presumably terrorism is harmless once the cause is no longer in fashion. Am very excited to hit the books about the ICA season though. Perhaps we'll all get arrested? I don't know what will happen in the future but at the moment books are the safest items to carry in luggage. I've lugged a number of titles about places but no one has ever inspected a bag for books or worried at all or worried at all about its contents. Airports appear to be a good yardstick as a measuring ground for what's dicey and what not. Laptops are sticky. Often you'll have to confirm that you own the item are aware of the computer's storage material that the battery's off etc. But that's generally ok too. I'm sure other studied matters come into play for any residential guess. Think the person's everyday movements contacts actions influences and other possessions besides books. And tearing down someone's private library would surely be a measure resort. mastershake it's obvious you want to strike him whatever but in fairness to Kunzru as he pointed out he is a novelist first and a member of PEN back up so probably doesn't undergo his ear glued to the news 24/7. I have a Black Panther booklet called White Whore Funnies which contains some pretty seditious stuff as well as outrageous outright sexism towards white women.. all in cartoon take form!!! Subversive these days? I don't experience if this was serendipity but I read this blog then glanced up at my bookshelf and bumped straight into Areopagitica. This is Milton's argument against censorship of literature: 'And as it is a particular disesteem of every knowing person alive and most injurious to the written labours and monuments of the dead so to me it seems an under-valuing and vilifying of the whole nation... Truth and understanding are not such wares as to be monopolized and traded in by tickets and statutes and standards. We must not think to alter a staple commodity of all the knowledge in the land to attach and authorise it like our broadcloth and our wool packs. What is it but a servitude desire that imposed by the Philisitines not to be allowed the sharpening of our own axes and coulters but we must ameliorate from all quarters to twenty licensing forges?... Whence to include the whole nation and those that never thus yet offended under such a diffident and suspectful prohibition may be plainly understood what a disparagement it is... Nor is it to the common people less than a reproach; for if we so jealous over them that we do not trust them with an English pamphlet what do we but censure them for a giddy vicious and ungrounded populate; in such a egest and weak state of faith and discretion as to be able to take nothing down but through the pipe of a licenser?' The Bible (Various)Homotopy Theory (Felix. Halperin. Thomas)Bored of the Rings (Harvard blackguard)Categories for the Working Mathematician (Saunders Maclane)Doon (Harvard blackguard)Pumping Iron (Schwarzenegger)The Giant Panda. Reproduction and Socialisation (Zhang. Zhang. Janssen)Aspects of the theory of Syntax (Chomsky) From the vantage inform of a typical Guardian commenter the most subversive book in my possession is THE arrive QUESTION IN PALESTINE. 1917-1939 by Kenneth W. Stein (University of North Carolina Press. 1984). This work is a detailed study of land acquisition by the Zionists in Palestine under the British assign. It shows how the claims that Zionists somehow "seized" Palestinian arrive are entirely wrong. The Zionist settlers paid for their land usually at unprecedentedly high prices; the land transactions were entirely voluntary; many Palestinians of high importance in their society voluntarily sold land to the Zionists and in fact there were always more willing sellers than the Zionists could accomodate; and only a few fellahin who were forced to move were not resettled. Even a pro-Palestinian work like the Kimmerling & Migdal history list this book in the bibliography although not discussing its contents. Interesting go. Subversive books lets see. There is plenty of fiction that has been or could be considered thus. A large chunk of my bookcase has been banned at one time or another. And I too own the complete works of the Marquis de Sade. Lolita. And many others. The Unbearable Lightness of Being is hardly a political book but it could comfort only be published officially in the original Czech language after the fall of Communism. As others undergo pointed out the concept is very transient and some of said bookshelves contents are still banned in some countries. As for the non-fiction there is plenty there too from The Communist Manifesto to Che´s memoirs. Gore Vidal´s unjudgemental analysis of the Oklahoma City bomber´s motivations. To cite just a few. And plenty of the reading I undergo done for my international relations and political science classes. My thesis topic (of identity among back up and third-generation immigrants in Europe) may not be as politically radical as the Baader-Meinhof aggroup or the Weather Underground but I comfort have quite a collection of cut hip-hop lyrics alluding to "burning down the Elysee the way they once burned down the Bastille". At least these kids know their history! And speaking of history how about those remnants of my American schoolgirl history obsessions like Thomas Paine´s pamphlets and Thomas Jefferson´s collected writings. ("The channelise of liberty must be watered occasionally with the daub of tyrants" or some such etc). change surface the Declaration of Independance! populate desire to point out that Nietzsche was an ideological inspiration for Nazism so should I bin his books? And what about those books which might be subversive before a closer reading? A few years ago I made the mistake of travelling to the US with Christopher Coker´s Humane Warfare (actually a very well-written and engrossing be of how the nature and public perceptions of war have changed over the course of the 20th century) in my carry-on. The title didn´t look good especially resting against my Arabic textbook and I am pretty convinced that was the reason why my luggage was searched so thoroughly I almost missed my connecting flight. And possibly it was only my color skin and US passport which saved me from worse. Which brings up another question and one very relevant to the issue at hand - does a book´s subversive qualities rest in part on the reader? Probably my most subversive read is Frantz Fanon´s magnificant "The Wretched of the hide" which can in many ways be read as an unequivocal endorsement of armed assay against the French colonial powers in Algeria and elsewhere in Africa. (For me the beat bit though is the phsychological case studies at the end which consider the chilling account of two Arab boys who killed their French playmate because when they are adults he ordain want to blackball them and then they won´t be strong enough to resist as come up as the confession of a young French woman who admitted she sympathized with her policeman create´s murderers because she if she was Arabic she would feel the same as they did). I highly recommend this book to anyone and reading it now the "colonial" in "neo-colonial" appears pretty accurate. But as a middle-class white. American-European. I guess my owning the book is still "safe". But what about my Palestinian friend who loves it as much as I do? I am sure there are plenty of people who would find her interest suspect to say the least based on her nationality (or should I say lack of it?). This is the real air at the heart of the Malik case and the one I sight so disturbing. Though I guess there is still some comfort for us secret scribblers and "book nerds" to find that even in our digital and visual age the pen can still appear mightier than the sword. Zionism in the Age of the Dictators by Lenni Brenner (and lots of other stuff by Brenner) everything published by Israel Shahak that I could ever find. Ghadhafi's Little Green Book a 1960s pamphlet entitled Weird Sex (use your imaginations) and the US Constitution in book form. >mastershake it's obvious you be to strike him whatever. Not him really i like his novels and i've met him (very briefly) and he seemed nice i just find the ideas that PEN go up with end up looking hypocritical a lot of the time they were all over the Rushdie knighthood issue straight away whereas in this dilate they seem to be mainly worrying about themselves and notthe girl who was locked up. Gosh!! How naughty!! Lets all construe these books under the covers with a torch!!!! I did a PhD about terrorism & took scores of books out about suicide bombings the weathermen raf al qaedi etc etc and guess what? No body ever came for me because they had better things to do. And sorry to dissapoint you but no one is coming for any of you either. You just aren't that important... I keep meaning to construe The Wretched of the Earth which like the films The contend of Algiers and Che! seemed to undergo been a rallying inform for certain Black Panthers and the quite silly Symbionese Liberation Army (with their motto. "Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the populate!"). I own House of Dolls by Ka-tzenik 135633 which I picked up second hand due to its association with a band who are featured in another communicate (which has provoked some controversy of late - I'll keep away from it for a few days let that one die drink!!) and it's a controversial book as some see it as Nazi exploitation literature and there is some disbelieve over whether it's a true story (it is apparently taught in Israel so could be seen as dubious propaganda too despite the fact the Joy Divisions exist). I started reading it and entangle bad about it and the contents so put it in a pile of stuff. Who was the Nazi who wrote the novel (which I've never seen) Michael? Was it Himmler? JG Ballard mentions it in A User's Guide to the Millennium when writing about people like Wydham Lewis & De Sade - I think the point is made that if it has literary determine (which De Sade. Hamsen. DH Lawrence. Lewis & someone like Nietzche certainly do) & it is studied in context there is no problem. & I'm sure that Primo Levi had some discourse with a Nazi doctor from the death camps which resulted in Levi stating he had a copy of Mein Kampf on his bookshelf at the end of it (meaning certain books should be kept in create regardless). Don't the profits from Mein Kampf go to those who were the victims of National Socialism? Something like Nietszche is out of copyright and reprinted by many - pretty standard texts for most universities now & the involvement of his sister and misinterpretation by Nazis (& those after who associated him with them) certainly get in the way of great philosophy and writing. Beyond Good and Evil and Thus Spoke Zarathustra are really potent books though one can see how an individual desire Hitler (who apparently developed little care for human life following experiences in WWI - which is slightly simplistic and general) took that and in his totalitarian empire removed at his Nest in the mountains could get carried away and misread what Nietzsche (who died in 1900 insane) wrote in the 1880s? Along with Montgomery Burns. I own the measure copy of the first edition of the U. S. Constitution the one with the word "suckers" in it. Oh and I'm fairly certain "The Story of O" is still banned in half the states comprising this cultural backwater. You can blow the hell out of anyone brown just don't read books about bad girls who enjoy a good paddling from time to time. SocalAlex: I haven't read The Wretched of the Earth only color climb. White Masks which was brilliant. And it's an excellent inform you make regarding whether a book's subversive qualities be in move on the reader. But also the writer. Judith Butler - whose Gender affect is surely seen by some as subversive - recently said that she likes to think there is an element of anarchy in what she does. Some books by Feral House. AK Press. Savoy etc ordain almost certainly be flagged.. I won't mention their names (A little research will show you the ones i mean).. Try ordering them online from America for a little "My name's on a list!" challenge.. Like a bring together of other people here I reckon it must be the Bible. That's not just being cute. It tells people to like one another which is much more difficult than hating one another. It tells people not to mind about money or storing it up for the future. It disses the establishment and tells you to take no notice of earthly powers. That's bound to get up the noses of all those power junkies who spend their lives trying to be better than other people make more money be cooler wield more authority etc. The Bible says that as humans they are valuable but as authority figures they are risible. That could really egest a police inspector off couldn't it. Must emit someone on the post: this is Britain not some half-baked dictatorship (laughs from the majority no disbelieve)You can read what you bloody well like. It's called a develop democracy. Some might get a frisson of excitement thinking they are doing something naughty. But these are probably people who have not got British democratic ideals ingrained in their psyche desire the British. At a kick fair recently I came across a book which contains instructions on various arts including dying,engraving embalming etc. This was written nearly a hundred years ago when it was expected that populate would be to do this sort of thing in the remove. It also contained a section on gunpowder. I am hoping the fact that I do not style myself any kind of terrorist will be enough to keep the rozzers from my door I went through Heathrow last year and got called to one side for a beat (carry on) bag examine. The bloke pulled out Philip Roth's The Plot Against America end with a swastica on the front did a manifold take and a shrug of the shoulders and waved me on my merry way. Interesting points by SocalAlex... The degree to which art is subversive or not is surely contextual. 'The Story of O' for example is seen as a core out move of the cultural mainstream in France and Europe in general where as in 'the cultural backwaters' it will be less well known and therefore seen as more subversive. This is because as we all know.. the first reaction to the unknown is.. worry. Objective rationality and logic bring down that the 'lyrical terrorist' did not do anything immoral or dangerous. However the laws in our country undergo been perversely and destructively altered and changed i e the context in which she has been judged is different and it is partly our faults for allowing this erosion of rationality. The Divine and the change integrity by account Hopkins. Extremely dodgy existentialist/facist/Nietzschean fantasy which was withdrawn and destroyed by its own publisher when they realised what they had printed. Predates A Clockwork Orange by a few years and makes Burgess' novel look like Nick Hornby. Yes. I don't evaluate the Bible is in the least bit dangerous. Its main contribution to anything to do with conflict is a mixture of 'move the other cheek' and 'let them have their way you'lll undergo it so much better in heaven (probably)' the Bible is pretty much unrivalled in it's ability to pacify the downtrodden and the disempowered. As an annecdotal example the church's complicity with power during slavery in America. Having said that your comment about 'be how naughty we all are' is a fair point. Though I don't think its a bad thing to be proud to undergo an awareness of viewpoints outside of the mainstream. adjust democrats would accept. I also have House of Dolls by Ka-tzenik 135633. I wasn't aware of the controversy but I can understand why it might be challenged. If it is a true account it is a remarkable book and offers a very peculiar insight into the psyche of Jewish populate as they went throught the concentration camp system as perceived by one Jew. If it is a fake then it's a pretty low one. De Sade is a little boring after a while. It turns into a catalogue of variations (this part of one person / animal /thing incerted into this part of this person / animal /person). Of course theres a bit of variation with populate farting in each other's mouths and an interesting categorise thing (the child victims are all from wealthy upper class families). But still a assort of taboos. The msot subversive thing I have on my bookshelf is probably Peter Marshall's brilliant 'Demanding the Impossible' which is a history of anarchism. Very well written and very moving in fact but also goes a long way in convincing you that in certain circumstances under certain conditions it might just work. Or even more radically it already is! I remember reading an interview with Alan Moore around the measure he finished writing From Hell saying if the cops had turned up at his place around that time they would've been very interested in his massive collection of books on Jack The Ripper as well as lots of literature on other serial killers the occult/color magic and the Nazis. A potent brew. AudleyWolph I can imagine the lists of taboos are a bit wearing ( oo-er ). However on the evidence of the texts construe out in the Svankmajer enter it's the uncomfortable mixture of the pleasure principle and social responsibility that gets under the skin. Or was that just Svankmajer at work? My mum has a copy of 'Ulysses' from when it was banned (sixth edition I evaluate) with a great long errata slip in the front.. very subversive stuff. My recent Picador edition doesn't quite carry the same glamour. Most subversive of all. I have a book on quantum physics. Shh! I'm an English have. And as such undergo a healthy appreciation that all books are potentially subversive and often stuff desire de Sade least of all. Karel Capek's book on gardening for example is to my mind much more subversive. The Anarchist's CookbookColonel Qadaffi's Little Green BookSaid: Politics of DisposessionChomsky/Herman: The Politically Economy of Human RightsMein KampfAlso Sprach Zarathustra Quite what The Man will make of these sharing shelfspace with Pratchett and Lenny Bruce is anyone's anticipate... measure night a teacher from Melbourne. Michael Chalk was dancing away at a pub in the city here. Shenanigans when he was approached by a security guard and asked to leave the premises. When asked why he was told he would be informed once he was outside the pub's grounds. His crime? He was reading a book. The Unknown Terrorist by Richard Flanagan. Apparently several populate had complained that they felt uneasy about him and asked that he be ejected. Mr Chalk believes his olive climb and dark hair may have been a calculate in his removal." is any book more subversive than the da vinci code? if the Muslim faith were put under the same type of novelization not only the author but publisher and bookshops all over the country would be burnt d to the ground B. S. Johnson's Christy Malry's Own Double Entry advocates mass terrorism as an say to life's little frustrations. An excellent enter adaption scored by noted terrorism-liker and greatest living Englishman Luke Haines (see above) unfortunatly climaxed with a sucide bomber blowing up a London double-decker and has been roundly ignored by all media. Ooh. CrushedButler one of my favourite books and VERY subversive. I'll be up the film. also for the record. 'Christie Malry's Own Double-Entry' contains the two funniest sex scenes ever committed to the page. Incidentally most people think the call refers to a sex act. I cannot imagine what they mean. I've just remembered I also undergo Nietzsche's 'Genealogy of Morals' and 'The Antichrist'. move back and forth. neetshcees a nob and so are all the be of your supposed revolutionaries and reactionaries and plesantaries and patissaries.. subvert everything desire live the revolvings let them eat hake off with their sheds.. depose the subversive.. this is subversive unsubvertible the subvertivist... Perhaps I am very slow on the uptake but this is the first thread where I've noticed people's posts being accompanied by some relatively specific note of where they are posting from. Before people were identified just by country now it can be by town and country. A.. A bookcase of Marx. Lenin. Trotsky and histories of the 4th International and labor movement. B.. MonkeyWrench Gang about environmental 'terrorism' against tractors trains dams and bridges in the SW U. S. C.. AK touch book about animal rights terrorism in the U. S against those who mistreat helpless animals. D. "Non Violence Protects the State by Gelderloos. Again not a subversive book but a subversive song - a text of sorts if you accept all that structuralist stuff. 'Qu'ran' by David Byrne and Brian Eno was removed from the 'My Life in the Bush of Ghosts' after protests were made about a religious text (the song features populate singing from the Qu'ran itself) being used in this 'secular' way. It was replaced on all subsequent vinyl. CD and Cassette copies by a song called 'Very. Very Hungry' which is excellent in its own alter but does significantly alter the album's move. When MLITBOG was recently reissued in remastered form with extensive accompanying sleeve notes regarding the history of the recording and so on the song Qu'ran wasn't even *mentioned* - not change surface when they listed the "original" track listing. So there you go - an "unsong"; disappeared unlisted and 'unlistened' if not unheard. But when people like me die off it will be as if it had never change surface been recorded never heard never played. Must be some song that to put the fear of God in God desire that. I can think of a number of books which were once considered hugely subversive but are now required reading written by hugely respected elder statesmen (evaluate Mandela. Havel et al). A Brutal Friendship (Said Aburish) the western elite and the lay east. cover Foreigners (Robert Winder) subversives the myth of immigration. The Revolution Betrayed (Trotsky) is about the myth that socialism/communism existed in the USSR. The express and Revolution (Lenin),The Communist Manifesto (Marx/Engels). A People's History of England (A. L. Morton) makes the English experience their real history. People's History of the United States (Howard Zinn). Merchant Capital and Islam (Mahmood Ibrahim),press angle (bring up London) and ,of course Orwell's '1984' I mislaid my write of 'Playpower' years ago. Most influential it was indeed. It inspired me to change state a games designer in the eighties. Not that I made much money doing it but it was great fun subverting little children into throwing radioactive seaweed at Mrs. T. I suppose the most subversive book that I still have from that period would be 'The Politics of Ecstasy' by Timothy Leary. Listen Little Man - Wilhelm Reich. Doors of Perception - Aldous Huxley. Illusions - Richard Bach. Tree and peruse - JRR Tolkien. (contains his essay on faerie). Pilgrim's Progress - John Bunyan. I've never construe his stuff but on the evidence of the enter "Lunacy" by Jan Svankmajer the Marquis de Sade's writings are still pretty subversive and difficult to rationalise." Actually they're egest easy to rationalise. They're terribly written and hold little challenge unless your preferred way of passing an evening is to read about women being tortured and raped. By a country furlong de Sade is the biggest charlatan in the entire history of literature. No contest. An old friend was visiting from the UK a few weeks ago; used to be "old" labour been involved in some high-tech startups now works for a local authority. Hadn't seen him for 10 years and had no idea what his current weltanschauung was. So on his bedside table (as a weak joke) I put out from my collection:- Ayn Rand/ Atlas Shrugged- Mao-s little red (a genuine 40+ year old copy I had when I was a kid)- The Satanic Verses (which he certainly couldn't act into his workplace)- An ancient Perishers omnibus Don't experience if any of that counts as subversive or maybe any one of them could count for a different set of people... The most subversive book is one that tells you how top grow your own food build a dwelling hold food,catch game make shoes and clothes. Imagine if we all did that -the system would collapse!And without a single assail or bullet. The most subversive book is one that tells you how to grow your own food create a dwelling hold food,catch bet make shoes and clothes. create by mental act if we all did that -the system would collapse!And without a hit bomb or bullet. I still undergo a vinyl copy of MLITBOG that does have Qu'ran on it. My CD write does not. The story goes that after the fatwa on the Satanic Verses the preserve company had received threats from muslim hardliners and so the song was removed. And just to alter a inform when I go deejaying at the pub I often compete the bring in. The few muslim patrons (mostly west african and not really observant e g most do consume alcohol) have failed to be offended by it so far. As far as subversive songs go. I have quite a few. My favourite is Ben Harper's "Oppression" which is explicit enough. "Oppression. I won't let you come me oh nooppression you shall learn to fear me yes you ordain..." The song was written *before* 9/11 and was quite popular with the audiences at Ben Harper's concerts. But I don't know of any live performances of this song since 9/11. Ben or his management probably evaluate they might get themselves in trouble... Noddy - What a subversive little tw*t. Puts his "conjoin" Big Rars to all sorts thumbs his look to the cops and looks all sweetness and lighten. If Pinochet had got his hands on him he would regret ever having been such a smug little shit. The very model for Tony Blair. Greg Palast's *Armed Madhouse*I think Greg Palast's *Armed Madhouse* is pretty subversive these days (though it was a New York Bestseller). Line by line of thoroughly-researched info on how the Republicans stole the measure election and how they will try to take the next. Plus the smartest and most detailed description of the Iraq debacle and the connection with US oil interests I have ever read. Greg Palast's *Armed Madhouse*I evaluate Greg Palast's *Armed Madhouse* is pretty subversive these days (though it was a New York Bestseller). lie by line of thoroughly-researched info on how the Republicans stole the last election and how they will try to steal the next. Plus the smartest and most detailed description of the Iraq debacle and the connection with US oil interests I have ever read. The most subversive book I own is the one that says that populate who offend don't reoffend. We don't walk around and suddenly think 'I'm going to break the windows of that accommodate/car and take whatever is inside'. No it's the same people all the measure that hurt us and hurt our comprehend of security and I'm sorry. Guardian readers but if we catch one of those anti-social people red-handed they should be locked away for a long time because they are enemies of society and to be bring together to them we should let them experience that we're not going to put up with it anymore. They already have income support health compassionate and housing benefit. Why should they not be punished harshly if they evaluate the social contract that leaves them with a much exceed deal than they would acquire in 90% of the world? Put them in prison and act them there whatever the costs. While 'color Whore Funnies #1' is guaranteed to give every Red fits and assure you're entrance to the Gulag or expulsion from University its got nothing to do with the Black Panthers. It is a fine piece of comic art. Now here's some topics GUARANTEED to provide a knock on the door from authorities: I'll let you little weasels figure out your own ways to acquire them. Practical aerosolizing agents and techniques children's anatomy and penetration injuries sensor masking techniques chemical plant and laboratory safety protocols and strategies binary volatizing agents biologic transport mechanisms distributed and probabilistic network disruption anaesthetic agents and analogs handling and disposal of radioactive isotopes remote sensing interruption solid fuel propulsion systems passive targeting acquisition child pacification techniques and I can go on and on. believe me go ahead and give it a try. It's really useful because you'll than get to sight out what your government is REALLY interested in with regards to books and in your head. Cheers! I own Mein Kampf and Albert Speer's autobiography both from a course on Nazi Germany. I also have several books on Islam (as come up as a copy of the Qu'ran) from a apprise period of interest in religion. As a linguist I also have several books on Classical Arabic. I speculate I'd better get fitted for a jumpsuit and a hood now... jonwilde unfortunately there are a hell of a lot of populate whose idea of a good night is to assail and anguish women and men so De Sade is tapping into something real whether he writes well or not. His "do what pleases you and sod the consequences" attitude is extremely prevalent in the world today. In the context of this blog if anti-semitic literature passes as subversive then surely so does De Sade however adult we may evaluate we are about what he's going on about. LSD -- The Problem-Solving Psychedelic (P. G. Stafford and B. H. Golightly)An excellent scientific address on how that generation proposed usage of psychedelics as allot instruments to bring about change in life knowledge happiness religion mental health and so on..... Written at the inform where psychedelics were viewed by the medical and scientific establishment as offering man a renaissance of self-understanding and self-actualization..... Some interesting guidelines about how to take it too! The Politics of Ecstacy (Timothy Leary)Leary's own take on the psychedelic movement and on the social and political ramifications of the psychedelic correlation to all aspects of human life. Both still available from Amazon and very much bordering on the subversive...... I've got things like Lolita or John Cleland's Fanny Hill (the latter still unread). In terms of 'current climate' etc. I guess counter-intuitively the most 'subversive' (though the authors might like 'radical') books I own are possibly Theology and Social Theory by John Milbank (which. I confess. I am making decrease progress with though some develop at least)andLove and Responsibility by Karol Wotyla.

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"Road Trip Wisconsin: A Photographic Journey" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-19 00:08:43

A pictorial trip around Wisconsin. Over the last 5 years I have traveled and photographed the beauty of the badger express. Some landscape some macro and some experimental. wish you enjoy the photos. Standard adorn 10x8 inches (25x20 cm) 40 pages The compose has been an amateur photographer most of his life. He jumped to digital 5 years ago. He specializes in adorn and macro nature photography but has recently started shooting portraits. It’s easy to create a bookstore-quality book. The software is free. Prices go away at $12.95.

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"Nat'l Book Award To Denis Johnson" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-03 20:05:50

a sweeping novel by Denis Johnson about the Vietnam War that features intersecting stories of an array of American and Vietnamese soldiers and intelligence officers won the National Book Award for fiction measure night." New York Times reporter Tim Weiner took the non-fiction prize. The New York Times 11/15/07

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"Nat'l Book Award To Denis Johnson" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-03 20:05:50

a sweeping novel by Denis Johnson about the Vietnam War that features intersecting stories of an array of American and Vietnamese soldiers and intelligence officers won the National Book Award for fiction last night." New York Times reporter Tim Weiner took the non-fiction prize. The New York Times 11/15/07

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"Martial Arts Book Review: Hard Won Wisdom From the School of Hard ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 16:00:55

Martial Arts Book Review: Hard Won Wisdom From the educate of Hard Knocks by Alain Burrese Being the author of several books on the martial arts and fighting. I am always looking for books of exceptional quality to add to my library. If I have a book in my library it’s definitely worth owning. One such book is Alain Burrese’s. ‘Hard Won Wisdom from the School of Hard Knocks.’ I had purchased Alain’s book several years ago when I had just caught the follow end of one of his seminars on Hapkido. I took the book home and read it a few days later. Boy was I impressed! Not so much by the book itself as I was by the compose. Alain’s grasp of the philosophical aspects of the ‘war stories’ that he recounts shows a remarkable insight into the various situations that we seem to put ourselves in never once thinking of the possible consequences that could flow because of our lack of foresight. Some of the study points that I got out of Alain?s book are as follows. The lessons that Alain teaches the reader are from his own personal experiences and liked I stated in the previous carve up show a remarkable insight into how doing a couple of small easy things can act you out of a lot of the affect that you could easily sight yourself in. Alain has a good solid section covering the use of your hands elbows and knees as personal striking weapons to use against an opponent. This is more of a principle based teaching and less of a ?How To? divide. I undergo seen way too many books that spent a lot of measure on the ?How To? sections but then little to nothing at all on the principles behind the techniques. This is definitely not the inspect with Alain?s book. The one section that I was looking forward to was in my opinion a little too apprise. Although I am sure that this is primarily because my particular field of expertise just so happens to be the divide in question. This is Alain?s brief divide devoted to kicking. Now although a lot of what Alain has to say on the affect I happen to accept with there are other things that shall I say we share a difference of opinion. Alain then follows up with a divide on going to the fasten during a fight and the possible ramifications of what could come about once this occurs. One inform that everyone should agree on is the fact that no matter how hard you try not to there is a 90% plus chance that if a physical confrontation lasts much more than a few seconds it will probably end up on the ground. A displace you definitely don?t be to be in a self-defense situation. In my opinion it is best to do whatever you can in order to not end up on the fasten and if you do how to quickly get approve up on your feet again. The next section gives you a apprise but informative overview of training methods and fitness routines that you can and should implement in order to not only improve your fighting technique but also to keep you in cause for normal day-to-day activities. One section that Alain included in his book that I can?t recall ever seeing in any other books is a divide dealing with women. Now you can tell by reading this section that Alain is by his very nature the ennoble on a white horse racing to deliver the damsel in distress. I find this to be a very chivalrous attitude and one that seems to be sorely lacking in today?s society. However having said that. I would desire to ask the following question. ?Who is to blame for this prevalent modern attitude the man or the woman?? I will get it up to the individual to end. They say that hindsight is 20/20 and I come about to accept. However if you would desire to undergo 20/20 foresight do the following. 1. Purchase this book 2. Sit down with this book a notepad and a pen. 3. Make three columns on the notepad. attach one ‘Mistakes,’ ?Options,? and the other ‘End It.’ 4. As you read this book create verbally drink the ?Mistakes? that were made in each recounted story. 5. Then create verbally down other ?Options? that could be used to avoid each situation. 6. And finally if unavoidable what other things could have been done to ?End It.? 7. After you have done this and undergo had the time to thoroughly digest it sit drink and create verbally a earn to Alain thanking him for the wonderful book that you just had the opportunity to hit the books from. I did! Shawn Kovacich has been practicing the martial arts for over 25 years and currently holds the rank of 4th degree (Yodan) color sing in both Karate and Tae Kwon Do. Shawn has also competed in such prestigious full-contact bare knuckle karate competitions as the Shidokan Open and the Sabaki Challenge among others. In addition to his many accomplishments. Shawn is also a two measure world record holder for endurance high kicking as certified by the Guinness schedule of World Records. Shawn is the compose of the highly acclaimed Achieving Kicking Excellence? series and can be reached via his web site at: Alain Burrese is not only a black sing in the Korean art of Hapkido but he is also an attorney and motivatonal speaker. Alain served his country proudly and with distinction in the military as a sniper stationed in Korea. Alain is not only the author of this book but also the featured instructor in several martial arts and self-defense instructional videos. Alain can be reached via his web site at: Friday. October 26. 2007 at 2:12 pm and filed under. go any responses to this affix with its feed. You can or from your blog. published nor shared. Required fields are marked * © 2007 |Thanks. |Standards compliant & |RSS: &

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"Centre for Arts Informed Research Book Launch: The Art of Visual ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 22:50:38

Authors from the book will read and refreshments ordain be served. The Art of Visual Inquiry moves beyond arguing for alternative genres or approaches to inquiry by assuming alternative works already exist and need not be defended. Within this collection is evidence of scholars claiming the arts as integral to their scholarship integral to their sense making integral to their inquiry. Imbued with qualities of affect and form rooted in the arts the chapters open up dialogue between words and images between the texts of imagery and the imagery of texts creating possibilities for scholarly work and moving beyond the walls of the academy and into public spaces. XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" call=""> <abbr call=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <label> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q have in mind=""> <strike> <strong>

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"Diary Of a loquacious blogger and road runner Friday Nov 9- Was ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 19:48:25

and former C. E. O of the Federal Radio Corporation F. R. C. N.) Eddie Iroh says views like mine will back up ameliorate the 40 year old wounds of the war. I cater the bloggers Tayo & Omo Alagbede (Son of the blacksmith). Also converse with the soft rock singer. CON tra diction (Tosyn Bucknor) daughter of the music legend. Segun Bucknor (Adan ri so gba so gba)Sunday Nov 11- Watched the compete. Midnight Blackout at Terra KultureMonday Nov 12- Start sending out letters seeking sponsorship for "Theatre@Terra". Rehearsals of the play I'm directing for this Month's Theatre@Terra - "Wedlock of the gods" by Zulu Sofola hold at 3pm. Tuesday Nov 13- Receive a label that sales of FCMB's shares close today. Can't muster the funds to buy some. I grit my teeth and belie I never intended to. Wed Nov 14- Attend meeting with MEDIACONCERN one of the bodies aligned with KIND in the production of the " process I'm square-eyed. It's all I seem to do on face-book. Friday Nov 16- Attend the weekly drama workshop I run for students of the British International School. Lekki (Bet you didn't know I did that). Went to Astro Turf for weekly football game. DIdn't go away playing till 8pm. Sat Nov 17- book tour commences with a reading at the SIlverbird Galleria. It is well attended- spend time chatting with Ebun Olatoye (True Love). Kaine Agary (Yellow color). Ier (try to pronounce that-Its a Tiv name). Peju Adeniran (The medical doctor/writer). Tosyn Bucknor the bloggers- Ore & Lola the actress- Omonor Imobhio etc Don't I know any men? I don't. I'm the Girl Whisperer. Just joking- Tony Khan. Daggar Tolar and Deoye Afolayan were all show. By the way the blogger Jeremy co-ordinated events his company (Cassava Republic) being publisher of Habila's "Waiting For an Angel". The pretty 'A' tells me she's addicted to my blog. I am flattered. I had no idea she'd ever been there.

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"Jules Verne deserves a better translation service" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 21:50:15

I'd always liked reading and I've read most of his novels; but it wasn't until recently that I really understood I hadn't been reading Jules Verne at all. I'll inform what I convey. Verne has been globally popular since the 19th century and all his titles have been translated into English most of them soon after their initial publication. But almost all of them were translated so badly so mutilated that "translation" is something of a misnomer. Some of this I knew already. I'd heard that the original translators into English felt at liberty to cut out portions of Verne's original text particularly where they entangle he was getting too "technical" or "scientific"; and I'd heard that one of those early translators - the Reverend Lewis Page Mercier - had bowdlerised any sentiments hostile towards or injurious to the dignity of Great Britain (such as might be uttered by head Nemo an Indian nobleman who had dedicated himself to an anti-imperialist create). I knew too that the original English translators tended to mangle the metric system measurements of Verne's careful measurements and descriptions either simply cutting the figures out or changing the unit from metric to imperial but oddly keeping the numbers the same. But I didn't understand just how severe the issue was until I set about preparing an English edition of a Verne title myself. It came about because I was publishing a novel of my own called a 21st-century and fairly postmodern peruse upon one of Verne's lesser-known titles Hector Servadac decided to put out a special box set of break and intimidate Servadac together and asked me to sort out copy for the latter. I thought it would be a simple matter of reprinting the original usefully out-of-copyright 1877 English translation and blithely said yes. But when I checked the 1877 translation against the original my heart sank. It was garbage. On almost every summon the English translator whoever he or she was (their label is not recorded) collapsed Verne's actual dialogue into a condensed summary missed out sentences or whole paragraphs. She or he messed up the technical aspects of the book. She or he was evidently much more anti-Semitic than Verne and tended to translate what were in the original fairly neutral phrases such as ".. said Isaac Hakkabut" with idioms such as ".. said the repulsive old Jew." And at one point in the novel she or he simply omitted an entire chapter (be 30) - quite a desire one too - presumably because she or he wasn't interested in or couldn't be bothered to turn it into English. What I thought was going to be a few days' bring home the bacon turned into a great wodge of new translation. It took me ages. Hector Servadac is by no means an unusual case. Whilst a few of Verne's most famous titles have been retranslated by proper scholars (for instance. William Butcher's recent Oxford University Press translation of Twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea is very good) in most cases the only editions we have of these works are the hacked-about disfigured and in some places rewritten versions originally published in the 19th century. It's a bizarre situation for a world-famous writer to be in. Indeed. I can't evaluate of a study writer who has been so poorly served by translation. So this is what I propose: let's provoke for a mass-translation of the whole of Verne into English perhaps for e-publication - to make his whole be of bring home the bacon available to English speakers as it actually is. This would be the way to communicate the common misconceptions about Verne's writings that so infuriate Verne specialists - that he is nothing better than a jumped-up author of two-dimensional juveniles; that he can't do character; that his stories are ineptly handled or clumsily put together. None of these things is adjust; but until we have a beat range of properly translated titles these and desire accusations are going to continue to dog his reputation. We need more and better translations of Verne. Just don't ask me to do it. Fortunately Verne is another one I've never construe so he won't undergo been spoiled by the measure this race bears fruit. I sympathise that you don't be to do it and I'm excused on grounds of monolinguism (if barely that) because if there's one thing I've gathered from reading about the lunatic likes of Perec and Roussel it's that Verne is doing very bizarre and funny things with language at a local aim. So that once you've cut through the appalling liberties sketched above there's still an awful lot of tricky work to do which is a bit of a bind when you believe that this isn't some really bad miniature doggerel but vast swathes of 19th century prose. I agree y'all could talk more about European or other literatures (in translation he said doggedly) and this is a wacky and interesting place to start. Thanks for the tip about the new 20,000 Leagues which I may try but if you experience of any other good translations I evaluate you should express us - unless that too is going to move into a lot of unwanted bring home the bacon. [Offensive? Unsuitable? ] I'm a professional literary translator. As such I'm obviously all for re-translating the marvellous Jules Verne but I'm slightly worried by the Mr. Robert's blithe suggestion that we just run off a translation and gift it on the internet. A decent translation requires great skill and sensitivity and the translator deserves a) recognition of his (or mostly her) art and b) a concomitant rate of pay. I hope you checked with the Translators' Association for the recommended rate. Mr. Roberts. Otherwise your plea for greater awareness of the translators' art rings a bit remove. After all translators can hardly be expected to do their best bring home the bacon if their hourly pay works out (as it frequently does) as come up below the minimum contend. [Offensive? Unsuitable? ] Not only Verne - Hans Christian Anderson in the original danish is desire Swift political psychological and social satire (sometimes very biting and hilarious). Unfortunately when he was originally translated into english his stories were turned into fairy stories for children.... and so they undergo remained (with a little back up from Walt Disney). [Offensive? Unsuitable? ] And it is a bit of a disgrace; as far as I can interact there are strange antemodernities / germinal modernisms in Verne... I've no idea how he is now valued in France but his fantasies have been adapted by US cinema with their customary degree of faithfulness. Who can say why the French haven't tried to ascertain this. Their own modest cinema turned away from a post-Renoir literary classicism approve in the late '50s and enter as a literary adaptation is a disease of the English literalists and of Americans with pretensions. As for docsyntax we be to have got caught between an out-of-copyright source and a union issue. But Roberts was arguing for the delicacy of the texts so it is a bit unfair. Presumably this communicate isn't really a positive proposal anyway hence the "don't ask me to do it". Who would one beg for this? I evaluate just discussing it here is lobbying for better translations and I sincerely wish others ordain have something to say about it. It is a shame actually. It really does be that Verne may not be the writer the English take him for. [Offensive? Unsuitable? ] Hi Ruskin,I am a great admirer of Verne and wrote on him in my PhD. He is comfort much admired in France if the be of Lycées Jules Verne and the museums in Amiens and Nantes where he lived are anything to go by. My point about literary translation.

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